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	<title>Comments on: Bull Run in the News &#8211; Kenton Harper, 5th VA</title>
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		<title>By: Brett Schulte - TOCWOC</title>
		<link>http://bullrunnings.wordpress.com/2010/03/06/bull-run-in-the-news-kenton-harper-5th-va/#comment-16350</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 03:34:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mike,

Thanks from me as well.  It seems to be a pretty unclear subject.  I think what I&#039;ll do from now on is &quot;collect&quot; any newspaper articles I come across, posting a link and a few paragraphs at first, but going back and posting the whole thing later if it disappears.  In any case, after hearing your stories about Murdoch et al, I&#039;ll be asking each paper on an individual basis.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike,</p>
<p>Thanks from me as well.  It seems to be a pretty unclear subject.  I think what I&#8217;ll do from now on is &#8220;collect&#8221; any newspaper articles I come across, posting a link and a few paragraphs at first, but going back and posting the whole thing later if it disappears.  In any case, after hearing your stories about Murdoch et al, I&#8217;ll be asking each paper on an individual basis.</p>
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		<title>By: The Abraham Lincoln Observer</title>
		<link>http://bullrunnings.wordpress.com/2010/03/06/bull-run-in-the-news-kenton-harper-5th-va/#comment-16349</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Abraham Lincoln Observer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 03:22:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[a month or TWO. Gotta reread these posts first ...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>a month or TWO. Gotta reread these posts first &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: The Abraham Lincoln Observer</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Abraham Lincoln Observer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 03:21:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Agreed about how frustrating it is to post a link and then have it go dead a month or too later. It&#039;s happened to me with my own newspaper, Creative Commons or not. There are some papers that you can count on to keep links live -- NY Times is solid, for instance. Otherwise, tho, I don&#039;t have a good answer for that problem.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed about how frustrating it is to post a link and then have it go dead a month or too later. It&#8217;s happened to me with my own newspaper, Creative Commons or not. There are some papers that you can count on to keep links live &#8212; NY Times is solid, for instance. Otherwise, tho, I don&#8217;t have a good answer for that problem.</p>
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		<title>By: Harry Smeltzer</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Harry Smeltzer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 03:16:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Mike,

As a rule, I don&#039;t repost someone else&#039;s original content here.  I know a few bloggers who, as a rule, DO post other&#039;s original content, usually with attribution.  The only reason I did it this time was because it was a) posted on a non-pay site, b) was directly associated with Bull Run and c) might be gone from that URL tomorrow, rendering a simple link useless.  If any one of these was not the case, I would not have copied the whole thing.  But I think I should have asked for permission, and will do so in the future.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Mike,</p>
<p>As a rule, I don&#8217;t repost someone else&#8217;s original content here.  I know a few bloggers who, as a rule, DO post other&#8217;s original content, usually with attribution.  The only reason I did it this time was because it was a) posted on a non-pay site, b) was directly associated with Bull Run and c) might be gone from that URL tomorrow, rendering a simple link useless.  If any one of these was not the case, I would not have copied the whole thing.  But I think I should have asked for permission, and will do so in the future.</p>
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		<title>By: The Abraham Lincoln Observer</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 01:59:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Harry &amp; Brett: Attribution is great, but a lot depends on the newspaper or newspaper chain ... For instance, I don&#039;t think you want to reprint in full anything from a Murdoch paper -- NY Post, Wall St. Journal, etc. Rupert is on the warpath about people reposting his papers&#039; products. Here&#039;s what he said about Google, as reported this week in New York magazine: “... there are those who think they have a right to take our news content and use it for their own purposes without contributing a penny to its production … To be impolite, it’s theft.” (Full story here: http://nymag.com/news/media/64305/)

And here&#039;s the conclusion of a column published along the same lines Friday in the Cincinnati Enquirer:  &quot;... We&#039;re no longer willing to idly watch our good efforts stolen. In an attempt to track down such content parasites, The Enquirer and Cincinnati.Com now employ technology that scours the media landscape for illegal use of our content. In recent weeks, we have sent warnings to several blogs, Web sites and radio stations. We&#039;re mad as hell and we&#039;re not going to take it anymore.&quot; It&#039;s not clear from the editorial whether, or how much, it would help if the Enquirer gets clear attribution. (Full article: http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20100305/COL26/3070301/)

I&#039;m not endorsing either of those sentiments. In fact, our owners, GateHouse Media, use the Creative Commons approach, which -- as I understand it -- generally allows free non-commercial use of our material (though, obviously, we appreciate attribution). Everybody does it different. But I am saying there are media outlets that are pretty restrictive, and some of them are nasty about it. You probably want to look into an outlet&#039;s philosophy before republishing entire articles.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Harry &amp; Brett: Attribution is great, but a lot depends on the newspaper or newspaper chain &#8230; For instance, I don&#8217;t think you want to reprint in full anything from a Murdoch paper &#8212; NY Post, Wall St. Journal, etc. Rupert is on the warpath about people reposting his papers&#8217; products. Here&#8217;s what he said about Google, as reported this week in New York magazine: “&#8230; there are those who think they have a right to take our news content and use it for their own purposes without contributing a penny to its production … To be impolite, it’s theft.” (Full story here: <a href="http://nymag.com/news/media/64305/" rel="nofollow">http://nymag.com/news/media/64305/</a>)</p>
<p>And here&#8217;s the conclusion of a column published along the same lines Friday in the Cincinnati Enquirer:  &#8220;&#8230; We&#8217;re no longer willing to idly watch our good efforts stolen. In an attempt to track down such content parasites, The Enquirer and Cincinnati.Com now employ technology that scours the media landscape for illegal use of our content. In recent weeks, we have sent warnings to several blogs, Web sites and radio stations. We&#8217;re mad as hell and we&#8217;re not going to take it anymore.&#8221; It&#8217;s not clear from the editorial whether, or how much, it would help if the Enquirer gets clear attribution. (Full article: <a href="http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20100305/COL26/3070301/" rel="nofollow">http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20100305/COL26/3070301/</a>)</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not endorsing either of those sentiments. In fact, our owners, GateHouse Media, use the Creative Commons approach, which &#8212; as I understand it &#8212; generally allows free non-commercial use of our material (though, obviously, we appreciate attribution). Everybody does it different. But I am saying there are media outlets that are pretty restrictive, and some of them are nasty about it. You probably want to look into an outlet&#8217;s philosophy before republishing entire articles.</p>
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		<title>By: Harry Smeltzer</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Harry Smeltzer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2010 02:55:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m thinking it comes under fair use, but don&#039;t quote me.  I think as long as you give clear attribution it&#039;s OK - I think news items are a little different from other commercial works.  But again, don&#039;t quote me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m thinking it comes under fair use, but don&#8217;t quote me.  I think as long as you give clear attribution it&#8217;s OK &#8211; I think news items are a little different from other commercial works.  But again, don&#8217;t quote me.</p>
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		<title>By: Brett Schulte - TOCWOC</title>
		<link>http://bullrunnings.wordpress.com/2010/03/06/bull-run-in-the-news-kenton-harper-5th-va/#comment-16337</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brett Schulte - TOCWOC]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 20:11:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Harry, this post brings to light a recurring question for me about current newspapers.  Is reproducing a current article from a newspaper in its entirety copyright infringement if the articles are free to anyone online?  I&#039;ve got to believe the answer is no since you&#039;ve done so here, but it was a gray area for me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Harry, this post brings to light a recurring question for me about current newspapers.  Is reproducing a current article from a newspaper in its entirety copyright infringement if the articles are free to anyone online?  I&#8217;ve got to believe the answer is no since you&#8217;ve done so here, but it was a gray area for me.</p>
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