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	<title>Comments on: Hennessy on the Naming of &#8220;Stonewall&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Harry Smeltzer</title>
		<link>http://bullrunnings.wordpress.com/2009/04/16/hennessy-on-the-naming-of-stonewall/#comment-19581</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Harry Smeltzer]]></dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Martin,

This appears to be a derivative of the article that I have posted here:

http://bullrunnings.wordpress.com/2007/02/06/bee-redux/

As you see, that&#039;s the Richmond Dispatch from July 29, and also it is pulled from an even earlier edition of the Charleston Mercury. I believe - but can&#039;t nail down right now - that this story began to emerge around the 24th. And keep in mind that the focus of the story in these accounts is Bee, not Jackson. No &quot;rallying behind the Virginians.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Martin,</p>
<p>This appears to be a derivative of the article that I have posted here:</p>
<p><a href="http://bullrunnings.wordpress.com/2007/02/06/bee-redux/" rel="nofollow">http://bullrunnings.wordpress.com/2007/02/06/bee-redux/</a></p>
<p>As you see, that&#8217;s the Richmond Dispatch from July 29, and also it is pulled from an even earlier edition of the Charleston Mercury. I believe &#8211; but can&#8217;t nail down right now &#8211; that this story began to emerge around the 24th. And keep in mind that the focus of the story in these accounts is Bee, not Jackson. No &#8220;rallying behind the Virginians.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Harry Smeltzer</title>
		<link>http://bullrunnings.wordpress.com/2009/04/16/hennessy-on-the-naming-of-stonewall/#comment-19566</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Harry Smeltzer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov 2011 03:26:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Martin.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Martin.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin Husk</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Martin Husk]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Nov 2011 15:50:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I ran across an article published in the North Carolina Standard on July 31, 1861 with an account of the 6th NC part in the battle as told by Captain York.  Along with the account are other interesting stories about the battle, including this one about General Bee:

&quot;GEN. BEE, OF SOUTH CAROLINA.
This gallant officer fell in the field of battle. He displayed a gallantry that scarcely has a parallel in history. The brunt of the morning&#039;s battle was sustained by his command until past two o&#039;clock.  Overwhelmed by superior numbers, and compelled to yield before a fire that swept everything before it, Gen. Bee rode up and down his lines, encouraging his troops, by everything that was dear to them, to stand up and repel the tide which threatened them with destruction. At last his own brigade dwindled to a mere handful, with every field officer killed or disabled. He rode up to Gen. Jackson and said: &quot;General, they are beating us back.&quot;  The reply was: &quot;Sir, we&#039;ll give them the bayonet.&quot;  Gen. Bee immediately rallied the remnant of his brigade, and his last words to them were: &quot;There is Jackson standing like a stone wall. Let us determine to die here and we will conquer. Follow me!&quot;  His men obeyed the call and, at the head of his column, the very moment when the battle was turning in our favor, he fell, mortally wounded.  Gen. Beauregard was heard to say he had never seen such gallantry.  He never murmured at his suffering, but seemed to be consoled by the reflection that he was doing his duty.&quot;

It appears that the legend started to grow as soon as 10 days after the battle.  I tend to agree more with John&#039;s article.  What was published in the Standard seems more like propaganda needed by a fledgling country that thought it would fight one insignificant battle for its independence rather than suffer serious losses.  It needed a hero to buoy its people who were trying to figure out whether what they were about to endure was worth the cost.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I ran across an article published in the North Carolina Standard on July 31, 1861 with an account of the 6th NC part in the battle as told by Captain York.  Along with the account are other interesting stories about the battle, including this one about General Bee:</p>
<p>&#8220;GEN. BEE, OF SOUTH CAROLINA.<br />
This gallant officer fell in the field of battle. He displayed a gallantry that scarcely has a parallel in history. The brunt of the morning&#8217;s battle was sustained by his command until past two o&#8217;clock.  Overwhelmed by superior numbers, and compelled to yield before a fire that swept everything before it, Gen. Bee rode up and down his lines, encouraging his troops, by everything that was dear to them, to stand up and repel the tide which threatened them with destruction. At last his own brigade dwindled to a mere handful, with every field officer killed or disabled. He rode up to Gen. Jackson and said: &#8220;General, they are beating us back.&#8221;  The reply was: &#8220;Sir, we&#8217;ll give them the bayonet.&#8221;  Gen. Bee immediately rallied the remnant of his brigade, and his last words to them were: &#8220;There is Jackson standing like a stone wall. Let us determine to die here and we will conquer. Follow me!&#8221;  His men obeyed the call and, at the head of his column, the very moment when the battle was turning in our favor, he fell, mortally wounded.  Gen. Beauregard was heard to say he had never seen such gallantry.  He never murmured at his suffering, but seemed to be consoled by the reflection that he was doing his duty.&#8221;</p>
<p>It appears that the legend started to grow as soon as 10 days after the battle.  I tend to agree more with John&#8217;s article.  What was published in the Standard seems more like propaganda needed by a fledgling country that thought it would fight one insignificant battle for its independence rather than suffer serious losses.  It needed a hero to buoy its people who were trying to figure out whether what they were about to endure was worth the cost.</p>
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		<title>By: C Sears</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[C Sears]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 21:37:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow! I have been looking for this article by John Hennessy forever. Glad to finally find it and get to read it myself instead of hearing others go on and on about this article should be the last and best explanation on the controversy about Old Jack&#039;s nickname.
Mr Hennessy&#039;s explanation fits into my own theory of American Civil War literature that the truth lies somewhere in between the literature that diefies and/or immortalizes (insert name of ACW personality or incident) and the literature that bashes (insert name of ACW personality or incident) everyone and everything that makes up ACW history. As an example, I am sure the real Robert E. Lee is somewhere between what Douglas Southall Freeman wrote and what was more recently written by Alan T. Nolan.
Thanks Harry and John, for expanding my ACW knowledge.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow! I have been looking for this article by John Hennessy forever. Glad to finally find it and get to read it myself instead of hearing others go on and on about this article should be the last and best explanation on the controversy about Old Jack&#8217;s nickname.<br />
Mr Hennessy&#8217;s explanation fits into my own theory of American Civil War literature that the truth lies somewhere in between the literature that diefies and/or immortalizes (insert name of ACW personality or incident) and the literature that bashes (insert name of ACW personality or incident) everyone and everything that makes up ACW history. As an example, I am sure the real Robert E. Lee is somewhere between what Douglas Southall Freeman wrote and what was more recently written by Alan T. Nolan.<br />
Thanks Harry and John, for expanding my ACW knowledge.</p>
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		<title>By: P Kirkpatrick</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[P Kirkpatrick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 12:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank You For This Article ! It only reaffirms my admiration for my Beloved Thomas J Jackson.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank You For This Article ! It only reaffirms my admiration for my Beloved Thomas J Jackson.</p>
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		<title>By: L. Bateman</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[L. Bateman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2009 19:27:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As a Virginian, I thought that beloved &quot;Stonewall&quot; was going to fall to &quot;friendly fire&quot; prematurely at First Manassas rather than at Chancellorsville. Traversing the paragraphs quoting various &quot;players&quot; in the battle not far from the caravan of tourist and media who came to see a &quot;quickie&quot; war, I could almost smell the acrid burnt powder. Names, places, movements, sequence of events, commands and legend are often obscured by both the smoke of battle and the fog of war. Like today, the media probably contributed to what was commonly believed by the masses. 

Certainly the day, indeed the era, was one for story telling. I think we can agree that we all like a good story. What a relief to ascend Mrs. Henry&#039;s hill once again and find amid the carnage a beloved veneration for the audacity of Stonewall Jackson and his renown Virginians.

Now retired in South Carolina, I wonder what they are saying about me back in the Old Dominion? Maybe Stonewall wonders too. Indeed, the pieces are thought provoking, and I sincerely thank you. I personally don&#039;t care who was in trouble and came to the rescue that day. The reality is that Gen. Bee and many sons of the South from (in alphabetical order) Alabama, Carolina, Virginia and others stood that day and prevailed. I&#039;m preparing a speech this week to mobilize the grassroots to save the Republic. Perhaps I should carefully choose my words. Whichever &quot;ending&quot; you choose must make us all stand for Liberty for it is our day to be resolute like a stonewall against the incursions on States Rights, our Constitution, life, and liberty. Shall we stand together?

L. Bateman]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a Virginian, I thought that beloved &#8220;Stonewall&#8221; was going to fall to &#8220;friendly fire&#8221; prematurely at First Manassas rather than at Chancellorsville. Traversing the paragraphs quoting various &#8220;players&#8221; in the battle not far from the caravan of tourist and media who came to see a &#8220;quickie&#8221; war, I could almost smell the acrid burnt powder. Names, places, movements, sequence of events, commands and legend are often obscured by both the smoke of battle and the fog of war. Like today, the media probably contributed to what was commonly believed by the masses. </p>
<p>Certainly the day, indeed the era, was one for story telling. I think we can agree that we all like a good story. What a relief to ascend Mrs. Henry&#8217;s hill once again and find amid the carnage a beloved veneration for the audacity of Stonewall Jackson and his renown Virginians.</p>
<p>Now retired in South Carolina, I wonder what they are saying about me back in the Old Dominion? Maybe Stonewall wonders too. Indeed, the pieces are thought provoking, and I sincerely thank you. I personally don&#8217;t care who was in trouble and came to the rescue that day. The reality is that Gen. Bee and many sons of the South from (in alphabetical order) Alabama, Carolina, Virginia and others stood that day and prevailed. I&#8217;m preparing a speech this week to mobilize the grassroots to save the Republic. Perhaps I should carefully choose my words. Whichever &#8220;ending&#8221; you choose must make us all stand for Liberty for it is our day to be resolute like a stonewall against the incursions on States Rights, our Constitution, life, and liberty. Shall we stand together?</p>
<p>L. Bateman</p>
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		<title>By: Harry Smeltzer</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Harry Smeltzer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 02:12:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[John,

Glad I could help out on that score.

Harry]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John,</p>
<p>Glad I could help out on that score.</p>
<p>Harry</p>
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		<title>By: John Hennessy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Hennessy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 02:06:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m just glad, after nineteen years, somebody finally read the thing!  It&#039;s the one article I&#039;ve written I expected to get grief for, but after all these years never had a single hint that a single person had ever seen or read it....

As for the centrality of Virginians to the story and how that happened...well, Virginians also conceived and erected the anabolic Jackson statue on Henry Hill.  A little enhancement seems at times to have been part of the culture....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m just glad, after nineteen years, somebody finally read the thing!  It&#8217;s the one article I&#8217;ve written I expected to get grief for, but after all these years never had a single hint that a single person had ever seen or read it&#8230;.</p>
<p>As for the centrality of Virginians to the story and how that happened&#8230;well, Virginians also conceived and erected the anabolic Jackson statue on Henry Hill.  A little enhancement seems at times to have been part of the culture&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry Freiheit</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Larry Freiheit]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 18:10:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Harry,

Hennesey&#039;s article also makes sense to me. That the primary AL sources pretty much are consistent carries a lot of weight. Tom does have a good point--maybe the Virginia troops campfire tales and gossip spread faster? That the AL sources reflect contemporary writings is important IMO as we know that writings decades later can often be questionable.

Larry]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Harry,</p>
<p>Hennesey&#8217;s article also makes sense to me. That the primary AL sources pretty much are consistent carries a lot of weight. Tom does have a good point&#8211;maybe the Virginia troops campfire tales and gossip spread faster? That the AL sources reflect contemporary writings is important IMO as we know that writings decades later can often be questionable.</p>
<p>Larry</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Clemens</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Clemens]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 01:08:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Harry,
Just reading this now, I don&#039;t surf much.  Having a vague memory of John publishing this years ago, I agree it makes sense. My question, which I don&#039;t think he answered, is if the exchange was limited to AL troops, how did the Virginians and everyone else hear about and adopt it so quickly to their own purpose?  This is not to say  I doubt John&#039;s interpretation of the events, I just think this question needs to be answered.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Harry,<br />
Just reading this now, I don&#8217;t surf much.  Having a vague memory of John publishing this years ago, I agree it makes sense. My question, which I don&#8217;t think he answered, is if the exchange was limited to AL troops, how did the Virginians and everyone else hear about and adopt it so quickly to their own purpose?  This is not to say  I doubt John&#8217;s interpretation of the events, I just think this question needs to be answered.</p>
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