Comments on: Wheat’s Tigers – Did They or Didn’t They? http://bullrunnings.wordpress.com/2007/08/28/wheat%e2%80%99s-tigers-%e2%80%93-did-they-or-didn%e2%80%99t-they/ A Journal of the Digitization of a Civil War Battle Tue, 18 Jun 2013 23:11:08 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: Harry Smeltzer http://bullrunnings.wordpress.com/2007/08/28/wheat%e2%80%99s-tigers-%e2%80%93-did-they-or-didn%e2%80%99t-they/#comment-16453 Thu, 15 Apr 2010 20:14:34 +0000 http://bullrunnings.wordpress.com/2007/08/28/wheat%e2%80%99s-tigers-%e2%80%93-did-they-or-didn%e2%80%99t-they/#comment-16453 I’m no flag expert, though I know of a few. Hopefully they’ll read this and chime in. In the meantime, have you checked out these sites?

http://history-sites.com/cgi-bin/bbs53x/cwflags/webbbs_config.pl
http://www.nps.gov/history/museum/exhibits/flags/
http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/flags/us-csah.html#battcross

]]> By: Steve Hampton http://bullrunnings.wordpress.com/2007/08/28/wheat%e2%80%99s-tigers-%e2%80%93-did-they-or-didn%e2%80%99t-they/#comment-16451 Thu, 15 Apr 2010 19:52:56 +0000 http://bullrunnings.wordpress.com/2007/08/28/wheat%e2%80%99s-tigers-%e2%80%93-did-they-or-didn%e2%80%99t-they/#comment-16451 What an absolutely brilliant site.If you knew how long I have been searching for some of the information that is so readily available on here!
My interests lie with the flags carried by the regiments of the South.I am gradually collecting quite a number of replicas but I am having difficulty locating any from the Regiments of the Sonewall Brigade.Infact I have received conflicting information from dealers in the U.S. One stated the battle honours and Reg designation were carried on the state flag. The other that they were carried on the national flag.Can you lads help out?

]]> By: Wheat’s Report « Bull Runnings http://bullrunnings.wordpress.com/2007/08/28/wheat%e2%80%99s-tigers-%e2%80%93-did-they-or-didn%e2%80%99t-they/#comment-4075 Thu, 08 Jan 2009 04:31:01 +0000 http://bullrunnings.wordpress.com/2007/08/28/wheat%e2%80%99s-tigers-%e2%80%93-did-they-or-didn%e2%80%99t-they/#comment-4075 [...] discussed in this post, the report of Wheat’s commander N. G. Evans claims that the Battalion captured a regimental [...]

]]> By: Shawn Prouty http://bullrunnings.wordpress.com/2007/08/28/wheat%e2%80%99s-tigers-%e2%80%93-did-they-or-didn%e2%80%99t-they/#comment-2216 Fri, 05 Oct 2007 06:34:23 +0000 http://bullrunnings.wordpress.com/2007/08/28/wheat%e2%80%99s-tigers-%e2%80%93-did-they-or-didn%e2%80%99t-they/#comment-2216 I live in Washington Dc, and I have seen the microfilm on the “Returned Colors” by the War Department. Only 58 Union flags were identified and returned. There were 250 more Union flags that were not identified and there was a book on that, but that was checked out back in August 1996. The book has never been returned.

The problem with finding and tracking down Union flags and I will quote, “Many regimental commanders were embarrassed by the capture of their colors, and in many instances refused to acknowledge such a loss when writing their OR reports”. From the book “Advance the Colors” Vol 1. (Pennsylvania).

I have been checking the regimental histories at the Library of Congress. It’s going to take time, I always find another Union flag that I was not even looking for.

Thank you, for all the help!

Shawn Prouty

]]> By: Tomorrow « Bull Runnings http://bullrunnings.wordpress.com/2007/08/28/wheat%e2%80%99s-tigers-%e2%80%93-did-they-or-didn%e2%80%99t-they/#comment-2084 Thu, 13 Sep 2007 01:49:25 +0000 http://bullrunnings.wordpress.com/2007/08/28/wheat%e2%80%99s-tigers-%e2%80%93-did-they-or-didn%e2%80%99t-they/#comment-2084 [...] History Institute USAMHI) regarding any capture of flags by Wheat’s Battalion at Bull Run (see this post).  Art is an authority on Louisiana in the Civil War.  He was on the road when he responded to my [...]

]]> By: Harry Smeltzer http://bullrunnings.wordpress.com/2007/08/28/wheat%e2%80%99s-tigers-%e2%80%93-did-they-or-didn%e2%80%99t-they/#comment-2073 Mon, 10 Sep 2007 14:41:44 +0000 http://bullrunnings.wordpress.com/2007/08/28/wheat%e2%80%99s-tigers-%e2%80%93-did-they-or-didn%e2%80%99t-they/#comment-2073 No, I really don’t suspect that. After all, he did write that Harris’ report was enclosed with his, and if Harris didn’t mention the capture there surley would have been questions.

Friend Dave Powell did some checking in the New Orleans papers, which did not turn up Harris’ report. I’ll keep looking or rather keep asking others to look.

Harry

]]> By: Mike Peters http://bullrunnings.wordpress.com/2007/08/28/wheat%e2%80%99s-tigers-%e2%80%93-did-they-or-didn%e2%80%99t-they/#comment-2069 Sun, 09 Sep 2007 18:38:28 +0000 http://bullrunnings.wordpress.com/2007/08/28/wheat%e2%80%99s-tigers-%e2%80%93-did-they-or-didn%e2%80%99t-they/#comment-2069 Harry,

Do you think that “Shanks” might have “embellished” his report?

Mike

]]> By: Harry Smeltzer http://bullrunnings.wordpress.com/2007/08/28/wheat%e2%80%99s-tigers-%e2%80%93-did-they-or-didn%e2%80%99t-they/#comment-2049 Wed, 05 Sep 2007 19:58:23 +0000 http://bullrunnings.wordpress.com/2007/08/28/wheat%e2%80%99s-tigers-%e2%80%93-did-they-or-didn%e2%80%99t-they/#comment-2049 Andy,

I’m not sure that we ever got off Shawn’s original question, which was to what (if any) flag Evans was referring to in his report, but thanks for this info. You wouldn’t happen to have an ID or reel number for this microfilm, would you?

Since the report of Captain R. A. Harris of Co. A (“Walker Guards”) does not show up in the Supplement, my next step (if I was Shawn) might be to check out his home town newspaper. Krick’s “Lee’s Colonels” says Harris last showed on the rolls of the batallion as a major on 6/30/62, and that he was paroled at Meridian, MS on May 9, 1865. Now, there is a town of Walker, LA, but it was not so named until 1870. As many of the members of the Walker Guards were participants in the Nicaraguan filibuster expeditions, it’s likely they are named for their former leader, William Walker, who was executed in Honduras in September of 1860. The long and short of it is I don’t know where Harris made his home, but I would start by looking in the New Orleans papers.

By the way, I did hear back from Jim Burgess at the park, and he does not know the answer to Shawn’s question either.

Harry

]]> By: Andy MacIsaac http://bullrunnings.wordpress.com/2007/08/28/wheat%e2%80%99s-tigers-%e2%80%93-did-they-or-didn%e2%80%99t-they/#comment-2048 Wed, 05 Sep 2007 19:09:05 +0000 http://bullrunnings.wordpress.com/2007/08/28/wheat%e2%80%99s-tigers-%e2%80%93-did-they-or-didn%e2%80%99t-they/#comment-2048 Back to Shawn’s orginal question, there is a report on microfilm in the National Archives that lists the flags captured and lost by Union regiments. The flags are listed by some sort of inventory number and it indicates in an additional notation if the fag was returned. Is it complete? I can’t say but I think it is a place to start,

]]> By: Harry Smeltzer http://bullrunnings.wordpress.com/2007/08/28/wheat%e2%80%99s-tigers-%e2%80%93-did-they-or-didn%e2%80%99t-they/#comment-2012 Wed, 29 Aug 2007 16:46:06 +0000 http://bullrunnings.wordpress.com/2007/08/28/wheat%e2%80%99s-tigers-%e2%80%93-did-they-or-didn%e2%80%99t-they/#comment-2012 Mike,

I don’t think Wheat’s men fought as a unit after facing the 2nd RI until the general assault on Henry Hill. But that does not preclude the possibility that a Tiger picked up a fallen banner at some point. As you know, that kind of thing happened a lot.

Harry

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