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		<title>By: David Williams</title>
		<link>http://bullrunnings.wordpress.com/2006/12/21/a-civil-war-manifesto/#comment-3365</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Williams]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 19:43:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Justin,

Please see pages 277 and 360 for the role racism played in the riots and the impact it had on blacks in New York.  The ground-work for the race-based aspect is laid out in considerable detail in earlier in the book (that&#039;s what you get for skipping ahead).

I can&#039;t even begin to speak to the ways in which you&#039;ve over-simplified my view of internal conflict and Confederate defeat.  Class-based to some extent, yes, but much more to it than that.  Take a look at my most recent book, BITTERLY DIVIDED: THE SOUTH&#039;S INNER CIVIL WAR, which is available now from the New Press (though the website still says &quot;not yet released&quot;).  You may also want to check out the review in Publisher&#039;s Weekly (just go the PW website and search for &quot;Bitterly Divided&quot;).

Happy reading.

David Williams]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Justin,</p>
<p>Please see pages 277 and 360 for the role racism played in the riots and the impact it had on blacks in New York.  The ground-work for the race-based aspect is laid out in considerable detail in earlier in the book (that&#8217;s what you get for skipping ahead).</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t even begin to speak to the ways in which you&#8217;ve over-simplified my view of internal conflict and Confederate defeat.  Class-based to some extent, yes, but much more to it than that.  Take a look at my most recent book, BITTERLY DIVIDED: THE SOUTH&#8217;S INNER CIVIL WAR, which is available now from the New Press (though the website still says &#8220;not yet released&#8221;).  You may also want to check out the review in Publisher&#8217;s Weekly (just go the PW website and search for &#8220;Bitterly Divided&#8221;).</p>
<p>Happy reading.</p>
<p>David Williams</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Basic</title>
		<link>http://bullrunnings.wordpress.com/2006/12/21/a-civil-war-manifesto/#comment-102</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Dec 2006 05:28:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Harry,

Like you, I got a copy of the book &quot;el cheapo&quot;, and agree that is the best way to build of the library here.  As for the book, have heard from members of my Round Table who have read it, and they mentioned finding a lot of mistakes.  By that I mean the book was poorly edited etc.  

Have no idea when I will read it either, but will just say I&#039;ll get to it...eventually.:)

Hope all is well.

Regards from the Garden State,

Steve]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Harry,</p>
<p>Like you, I got a copy of the book &#8220;el cheapo&#8221;, and agree that is the best way to build of the library here.  As for the book, have heard from members of my Round Table who have read it, and they mentioned finding a lot of mistakes.  By that I mean the book was poorly edited etc.  </p>
<p>Have no idea when I will read it either, but will just say I&#8217;ll get to it&#8230;eventually.:)</p>
<p>Hope all is well.</p>
<p>Regards from the Garden State,</p>
<p>Steve</p>
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		<title>By: Harry Smeltzer</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Dec 2006 03:36:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Justin,

Thanks for the review.  Those provided by Amazon contributors were worse than worthless.

I think it&#039;s difficult sometimes to grasp just why private soldiers fought, so more often than not authors take the easy way out and try to fit the &quot;causes&quot; into some sort of formula.  It&#039;s this tendency toward one-dimensionalism that has focused my interest on individuals and how the times and events fit into the bigger picture of their lives.  What we usually get is just the opposite.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Justin,</p>
<p>Thanks for the review.  Those provided by Amazon contributors were worse than worthless.</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s difficult sometimes to grasp just why private soldiers fought, so more often than not authors take the easy way out and try to fit the &#8220;causes&#8221; into some sort of formula.  It&#8217;s this tendency toward one-dimensionalism that has focused my interest on individuals and how the times and events fit into the bigger picture of their lives.  What we usually get is just the opposite.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Felux</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Justin Felux]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Dec 2006 22:05:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As for the contents of the book, from what I understand David Williams is a big proponent of the &quot;internal conflict&quot; thesis vis-a-vis why the South lost.  In his recent book TV interview Gallagher said that Williams makes the best case for the internal conflict thesis, but that he ultimately is unconvincing.

Apparently Williams&#039;s basic argument is that poor white Southerners were not ideologically committed to the Confederacy, and they only joined the Confederate Army out of social pressure, or the hope that it would help them find an avenue out of poverty.  When they found that this was not the case, they began to desert by the thousands.  Those who stayed in the army only did so out of fear of being shot for desertion.

Class conflict was inmeasurably important in the Civil War, as with any conflict, but I think Williams really oversimplifies things.  He wants to portray the Civil War as an unfortunate consequence of the machinations of the rich on both sides, and portray the poor as both virtuous and anti-war.

When our library got a copy of the book, I skipped to the part about the New York Draft Riots.  Williams portrays the rioters in a disturbingly positive light (much like Scorsese did in the movie _Gangs of New York_) and downplays the racist character of the riot, preferring to instead see it as a purely class-based upheaval.

I&#039;m sure the book is a very interesting read, but I think the author&#039;s anti-war, and pro-working class sentiments misguide his judgment at some point.  Not that there is anything wrong with being anti-war or pro-working class -- Karl Marx was an enthusiastic supporter of the Union.  But Marx, I think, had a more thorough understanding of the Civil War than Williams does.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As for the contents of the book, from what I understand David Williams is a big proponent of the &#8220;internal conflict&#8221; thesis vis-a-vis why the South lost.  In his recent book TV interview Gallagher said that Williams makes the best case for the internal conflict thesis, but that he ultimately is unconvincing.</p>
<p>Apparently Williams&#8217;s basic argument is that poor white Southerners were not ideologically committed to the Confederacy, and they only joined the Confederate Army out of social pressure, or the hope that it would help them find an avenue out of poverty.  When they found that this was not the case, they began to desert by the thousands.  Those who stayed in the army only did so out of fear of being shot for desertion.</p>
<p>Class conflict was inmeasurably important in the Civil War, as with any conflict, but I think Williams really oversimplifies things.  He wants to portray the Civil War as an unfortunate consequence of the machinations of the rich on both sides, and portray the poor as both virtuous and anti-war.</p>
<p>When our library got a copy of the book, I skipped to the part about the New York Draft Riots.  Williams portrays the rioters in a disturbingly positive light (much like Scorsese did in the movie _Gangs of New York_) and downplays the racist character of the riot, preferring to instead see it as a purely class-based upheaval.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure the book is a very interesting read, but I think the author&#8217;s anti-war, and pro-working class sentiments misguide his judgment at some point.  Not that there is anything wrong with being anti-war or pro-working class &#8212; Karl Marx was an enthusiastic supporter of the Union.  But Marx, I think, had a more thorough understanding of the Civil War than Williams does.</p>
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		<title>By: Harry Smeltzer</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Dec 2006 21:21:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well then, there you go!

Thanks, Justin.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well then, there you go!</p>
<p>Thanks, Justin.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Felux</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Justin Felux]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Dec 2006 21:15:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[He is listed as &quot;series editor.&quot;  Zinn&#039;s popular _A People&#039;s History of the United States_ has spawned what I guess is a series of books that have the &quot;people&#039;s history&quot; title (I&#039;ve seen people&#039;s history of the American Revolution, Vietnam War, Iraqi Communist Party).  It&#039;s like the way Gallagher is listed as an author on all those essay collections about various CW campaigns.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He is listed as &#8220;series editor.&#8221;  Zinn&#8217;s popular _A People&#8217;s History of the United States_ has spawned what I guess is a series of books that have the &#8220;people&#8217;s history&#8221; title (I&#8217;ve seen people&#8217;s history of the American Revolution, Vietnam War, Iraqi Communist Party).  It&#8217;s like the way Gallagher is listed as an author on all those essay collections about various CW campaigns.</p>
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		<title>By: Harry Smeltzer</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Harry Smeltzer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Dec 2006 20:09:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Drew,

In this case, Zinn simply wrote the blurb on the cover.  Maybe that explains why James McPherson is credited with having written somewhere in the neighborhood of 12,000 books...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Drew,</p>
<p>In this case, Zinn simply wrote the blurb on the cover.  Maybe that explains why James McPherson is credited with having written somewhere in the neighborhood of 12,000 books&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Drew W.</title>
		<link>http://bullrunnings.wordpress.com/2006/12/21/a-civil-war-manifesto/#comment-96</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Drew W.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Dec 2006 18:05:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;For some reason Amazon lists this book as co-authored by Howard Zinn..&quot;

Bafflingly, Amazon frequently lists the person who writes the intro as a co-author. Even worse, they often list this person first!  Authors must love that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;For some reason Amazon lists this book as co-authored by Howard Zinn..&#8221;</p>
<p>Bafflingly, Amazon frequently lists the person who writes the intro as a co-author. Even worse, they often list this person first!  Authors must love that.</p>
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